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Section size for Utah (59 sections)
Section name	Byte count	Section total
(Top)	14,687	14,687
Etymology	1,966	1,966
History	38	22,697
Pre-Columbian	1,688	1,688
Spanish exploration (1540)	1,878	1,878
Latter Day Saint settlement (1847)	5,734	5,734
Utah Territory (1850–1896)	8,667	8,667
20th century to present	4,692	4,692
Geography and geology	8,848	54,012
Adjacent states	134	134
Climate	9,113	9,113
Wildlife	1,076	29,427
Mammals	7,313	7,313
Birds	10,154	10,154
Invertebrates	10,884	10,884
Vegetation	6,490	6,490
Demographics	3,885	27,389
Health and fertility	3,862	3,862
Ancestry and race	6,807	6,807
Religion	9,732	9,732
Languages	2,855	2,855
Age and gender	248	248
Economy	5,752	16,895
Taxation	1,282	1,282
Tourism	4,375	5,435
Branding	1,060	1,060
Mining	2,370	2,370
Energy	2,056	2,056
Transportation	19	5,307
Road	1,678	1,678
Rail and transit	2,346	2,346
Air	1,264	1,264
Law and government	4,245	39,195
Counties	5,184	5,184
Women's rights	1,501	1,501
Free-range parenting	1,178	1,178
Constitution	937	937
Capital punishment	1,409	1,409
Alcohol, tobacco, and gambling laws	1,813	1,813
Same-sex marriage	3,248	3,248
LGBT rights	59	59
Politics	19,621	19,621
Major cities and towns	7,451	7,451
Colleges and universities	3,161	3,161
Culture	12	12,579
Sports	11,038	11,038
Entertainment	1,529	1,529
See also	139	139
Notes	26	26
References	47	47
Further reading	761	761
External links	71	4,018
General	135	135
Government	464	464
History	116	116
Military	535	535
Maps and demographics	1,136	1,136
Tourism and recreation	522	522
Other	1,039	1,039
Total	210,330	210,330

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No longer a majority

This is not a surprise to LDS evangelists: https://ldschurchgrowth.blogspot.com/2023/12/response-to-mormons-are-no-longer.html tgeorgescu (talk) 02:40, 22 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It doesn't appear as if this is a reliable enough source for changing information here. Please see Wikipedia:Reliable sources for more on the quality and notability of sources on Wikipedia. Jwilli39 (talk) 20:05, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yup, not saying that it is WP:RS, just that it is not a particularly new insight. tgeorgescu (talk) 12:30, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Jwilli39 I think I may have found a better source on that? Let me know if this works, it has some updated 2024 census data that could possibly be implemented where relevant, including on religion.

Evcentric (talk) 08:08, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

New Flag

Utah has adopted a new flag recently. Please change it. 78.191.62.233 (talk) 14:40, 26 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It will be updated when it becomes the new state flag in March 2024. Jwilli39 (talk) 20:01, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The new flag is currently being appealed, and the old flag is still an official state symbol. Please put the picture of the old flag back on the page somewhere. 2601:681:8A00:E6C0:5C79:49FC:EDA9:7195 (talk) 16:12, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Is there any evidence of this being the case? I haven't been able to find anything relating to the new beehive flag being appealed. Jwilli39 (talk) 04:19, 11 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

New Utah flag sees mix of public opinion in Deseret News poll – Deseret News (https://www.deseret.com/utah/2023/11/1/23938587/new-utah-flag-sees-mix-of-public-opinion-in-deseret-news-poll/) - It has not gained sufficient support yet, nor is it clear that it will in the future, but there is an effort. I at least think that there should be a section, possibly on State History or State Symbols (such as state flower, state bird, etc.) where the flag can have its picture. 2601:681:8A00:E6C0:800A:22F0:C167:AFC3 (talk) 19:04, 11 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There were attempts to repeal the new flag, but the bill that would have done so failed to advance out of committee. In regards to the referendum attempt, only 99,125 signatures were gathered (of the approx. 134,000 required), and of that only around 81K were verified. Unless a referendum or bill passes to officially change it, then the beehive flag should stay put until then. Please see Flag of Utah#Attempts to remove the 2024 flag for more information on what went down. Jwilli39 (talk) 21:14, 11 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The old flag remains a State symbol under Utah Code as the "historical flag" and requires it be flown by State offices during holidays and above the Capitol when the Legislature is in session. An executive order places it's precedence as being above the present State flag when flown together. In the state symbols section it should still be displayed because of it's legal status and public use. ReminderCG56 (talk) 04:21, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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No source fo rindian name add source or remove.it. 64.189.18.34 (talk) 20:58, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 03:46, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Navajo name inclusion in summary box seems odd due to an inconsistent formating and absent clear reasoning when accessing most U.S. State pages.

The choice for which languages are appended to the offical names of the U.S. States are scatagorical and inconsistently applied. What is the reason for the Navajo name being used when the State's name comes from the Ute people? Secondly, Spanish is the second most widly spoken language in the state, why does the page not have the Spanish name for Utah broadly mentioned? Wikipedia editors ought to strive for consistincy by establishing needed criteria for a specified format accross sister pages.

Considering 11 of the 50 states have secondary language names applied to them in a manner with no clear system this practice needs review. These states are (Utah, Alaska, Hawaii, Iowa, Louisiana, New Mexico, North Dakota, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, South Dakota & Tennesee) This seems to confuses readers. It should be moved to another location within the summery box, perhapes as one of the other names if well known or in common usage. ReminderCG56 (talk) 23:16, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There is no indication that the Navajo name is in common usage. The name was added in an edit[1] in March 2024 without discussion. There have been previous attempts to add other Indian names to the article, but those have long since been removed and I was unable to find the diffs offhand.

Apart from WP:DUE concerns (as there were historically five tribes in the area now known as Utah), adding uncommon alternative American Indian names is against MOS:BOLDSYN which states that only significant alternative names should be added to the article. Mfko (talk) 20:18, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Native tribes

User:Domen von Wielkopolska has added an enormous table listing the population sizes of every Native tribe in Utah (33 different numbers in the table). These tables have been added to every state article in the country. While important, this level of detail is undue, and could best be covered in one article, with a link from each state article. Then input of others would be appreciated. Magnolia677 (talk) 20:46, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I will post tables under every state in the USA but I will include only the largest tribes for each state. I have already edited my Utah table by removing tribes below 500 members each, so that the table is not too long. Domen von Wielkopolska (talk) 21:36, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think that what you really want to do is erasure of Native Americans and that's why you dislike my additions. My tables are not "enormous" by any means, I'm adding only the most numerous tribes for each state. Domen von Wielkopolska (talk) 21:44, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If you think that my table for some state is still too large let me know and I will trim it. I already significantly trimmed the Utah table.
Domen von Wielkopolska (talk) 21:46, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]